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Skogen Gump	Posted - 2005.03.26 17:00:00 - [1] Originally by: Wrangler Originally by: Badshah If an account is paid for a year and they get disgusted and leave the game, will there payment be prorated and refunded to them? It's not that hard a question, ANDRUE. There are no refunds, its in the EULA. Sorry, when that becomes legally binding, let me know. I am legally protected from this kinda of behaviour by the fact that I can choose to not agree with the EULA and not use the software. Therefore the EULA doesn't come into effect as it is only Terms and conditions for playing the software, not a legally binding contract for someone who has purchased game time. Because EVE asks me to agree to the EULA when it starts, it means I can choose to disagree with it WHENEVER I want. Luckily, I don't want to cancel my account :)
Skogen Gump	Posted - 2005.03.26 17:04:00 - [2] Edited by: Skogen Gump on 26/03/2005 17:05:39 Originally by: Static Ga'lraith Originally by: Skogen Gump Sorry, when that becomes legally binding, let me know. I am legally protected from this kinda of behaviour by the fact that I can choose to not agree with the EULA and not use the software. Therefore the EULA doesn't come into effect as it is only Terms and conditions for playing the software, not a legally binding contract for someone who has purchased game time. Because EVE asks me to agree to the EULA when it starts, it means I can choose to disagree with it WHENEVER I want. Luckily, I don't want to cancel my account :) Why would you buy game time for a game that you refuse to play? Because , you don't get to read the EULA until you've paid or activated a trial account .... and i'm referring to my right to refusal.
Skogen Gump	Posted - 2005.03.26 17:12:00 - [3] Edited by: Skogen Gump on 26/03/2005 17:11:42 Originally by: kbuk From official posts ages ago CCP use M$ SQL on multiprocessor servers. Have you seen the licence costs associated with that. There are multiple licensing models for SQL Server, if CCP use the same one that we do, you pay more up front but you can have as many users as you like. Its called a processor License ... to quote directly from Microsoft Quote: *Processor license.* Requires a single license for each CPU in the operating system instance running SQL Server. This license does not require any device or user client access licenses (CALs).
Skogen Gump	Posted - 2005.03.26 17:15:00 - [4] Originally by: yanshi someone must be out of their mind to read all that text in the EULA. too much reading. u go nuts. lol. I try to make a point of reading anything that involves me spending money :P
Skogen Gump	Posted - 2005.03.26 17:16:00 - [5] Originally by: Wrangler Discussions regarding the EULA is off topic, and I can't answer any of those questions because they're not something I know much about. You started it !
Skogen Gump	Posted - 2005.03.26 17:29:00 - [6] Originally by: Valentine Keen The contract of the EULA would be legally binding in the UK so long as ...snip Yes, But only as long as you AGREE to the EULA. Thats why its called an End User License Agreement, not an End User License With No Right To Refuse or just simply an End User License.
Skogen Gump	Posted - 2005.03.26 17:33:00 - [7] Originally by: Juniper Bit off-topic now I know, but I have come across retail Microsoft stuff which have a seal on the back of the CD saying "By opening this, you agree to the EULA". Which is only located in a text file on the same CD you're trying to get to! I've always found it to be in the Box or the Manual, if you only got the CD then you should take it up with the retailer :)
Skogen Gump	Posted - 2005.03.26 17:41:00 - [8] Edited by: Skogen Gump on 26/03/2005 17:44:22 Originally by: Valentine Keen Well, yes, some companies take it too far. As for EVE, you do and have agreed to the EULA, you cannot play it without having done so, as such unless you fancy taking the matter to court to resolve whether the contract terms were unfair, you have no recourse or right to compensation. Just noticed, a EULA is not a Contract ... Well that really goes without saying, but the reason I was bringing this up is that people were asking if they could get their money back if they cancelled their accounts, and it was said that the EULA says you have no right to a refund - I simple pointed out that the EULU has no right to say whether I can have a refund or not, because I don't have to agree to the EULA to buy game time, just to play the game. Anyway, my T-Shirts have just come in the post, im not intending to quit and claim a refund at any point soon :) I just get riled when people quote the EULA as a legally binding/Correct piece of literature ...
Skogen Gump	Posted - 2005.03.26 17:48:00 - [9] LOL, you think we'd be playing EVE instead of arguing about it's Ts & Cs
Skogen Gump	Posted - 2005.03.26 18:05:00 - [10] Edited by: Skogen Gump on 26/03/2005 18:06:32 Originally by: Valentine Keen Software is licensed to users rather than owned by them, as such the license is the contract, is it not? The contract to use the Software, not the contract pertaining to purchasing game time or have said purchase refunded ... I agree to the EULA to play EVE, not to pay for EVE ... Therefore the rules governing the Playing of EVE have nothing to do with what happens to me Paying for EVE
Skogen Gump	Posted - 2005.03.26 18:12:00 - [11] Originally by: Victor RIx Is the server steady now? I'm at work and I am not able get on for a few hours. Seems to be ... /me touches wood
Skogen Gump	Posted - 2005.03.26 23:31:00 - [12] Originally by: S'Daria Atm is it...haven't had a problem today. But we're getting near peak time so if there are problems they should be here soon. Hopefully they fixed whatever the underlying problem. you obviously weren't online around 16:00 game time ... oh sorry ... no one was
Skogen Gump	Posted - 2005.03.27 10:44:00 - [13] I just had this mental image of loads of people in SoonÖ Tshirts marching on london docklands with flaming torches and pitchforks
Skogen Gump	Posted - 2005.03.27 10:53:00 - [14] I just question the 'lunatic' decision to bring the servers back up after a crash, just to run Downtime .... Admit it, you're teasing us
Skogen Gump	Posted - 2005.03.27 11:01:00 - [15] Originally by: Wrangler I can't do more than give you information on it, the decisions of what to do is more up to the techs in London and CCP. I'm sorry Wrangler, I know it's not your fault ... Im just venting spleen
Skogen Gump	Posted - 2005.03.27 12:00:00 - [16] Thats cool, as long as they fix the market !
Skogen Gump	Posted - 2005.03.27 12:01:00 - [17] Edited by: Skogen Gump on 27/03/2005 12:01:23 Originally by: Archa wrangler are they aware that i keep crashing continuesly ? ohnoes!!! Schedule DT right now ! just kidding mate :)
Skogen Gump	Posted - 2005.03.27 12:20:00 - [18] Genesis regional market is down too
Skogen Gump	Posted - 2005.03.27 12:26:00 - [19] Originally by: yooda Originally by: Wrangler Is the market out in all regions or does it work in some? Doesn't work anywhere around Lonetrek region. Why not just restart the servers so ppl stop whining? Because we will whine if they restart the servers too
Skogen Gump	Posted - 2005.03.27 15:37:00 - [20] Originally by: Scareseed why does this tend to happen when i am in the middle of a mission and i lose my dam bonus!!!!! Because the world hates you ... Sorry.
Skogen Gump	Posted - 2005.03.27 15:43:00 - [21] Originally by: hugodrax but if this is normal I would move on, I just started a trial 2 days ago and so far it feels like its a 25% uptime. Fair, but it's not normal ...
Skogen Gump	Posted - 2005.03.27 15:43:00 - [22] Chickens ? I dunno about sacrifice but I think a tarring and feathering might be in order ... /me looks for his pitchfork ...
Skogen Gump	Posted - 2005.03.27 16:59:00 - [23] Originally by: Halikus The server is down to me. I am in Kent UK and have had the same error message since Friday night aprox 11:30."The connection to the server is closed". Is this different to everyone else? I have tried logging in many times since then and the message is stil the same. I see some people are managing to play. Is it only the london servers down? please answer me somenoe as I have posted here 3 times already with no response. I think you need to empty your cache folder just leave the settings and browser folders and the prefs.ini file alone ...

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